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Postby Alex » Sat May 09, 2009 8:50 pm

In tournaments, can there be a max amount of minutes a player can be sitting out, before it bumps him out?
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Postby Kent Briggs » Sun May 10, 2009 12:31 am

Alex wrote:In tournaments, can there be a max amount of minutes a player can be sitting out, before it bumps him out?


Then you'd have to refund his buy-in and reduce the prize pool. Then everyone who got low on chips would just sit out.
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Postby Demented » Sun May 10, 2009 1:03 am

Kent Briggs wrote:
Then you'd have to refund his buy-in and reduce the prize pool. Then everyone who got low on chips would just sit out.

Well, we've been having a problem with people exploiting the time-out to stay in until the final 3. Doesn't happen all the time, but it has been happening a lot lately. Mostly with people playing the first few hands aggressively and getting a decent amount of chips then just sitting out until it's time for them to play in the final 3.
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Postby Kent Briggs » Sun May 10, 2009 9:18 am

Demented wrote:Well, we've been having a problem with people exploiting the time-out to stay in until the final 3. Doesn't happen all the time, but it has been happening a lot lately. Mostly with people playing the first few hands aggressively and getting a decent amount of chips then just sitting out until it's time for them to play in the final 3.


A player has every right to just fold every hand. It makes no difference if they manually click the Fold button every turn or check the Away box and have it done for them automatically.
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Postby SVTF » Sun May 10, 2009 10:25 am

Kent Briggs wrote:
Demented wrote:Well, we've been having a problem with people exploiting the time-out to stay in until the final 3. Doesn't happen all the time, but it has been happening a lot lately. Mostly with people playing the first few hands aggressively and getting a decent amount of chips then just sitting out until it's time for them to play in the final 3.


A player has every right to just fold every hand. It makes no difference if they manually click the Fold button every turn or check the Away box and have it done for them automatically.


Agree with Kent ..

But lets say we have someone pre register for a tourney because they are going to be late for the start.

And the rule is that if they do not show up to play by 1.5 hours in that they will be removed from the table.

Will the unregister feature work ? Game is running and under the tourney tab you double click the tourney.

Could you then select the person that has not showed up and unregister him?

Does this also take his chips out of the price pool?
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Postby Kent Briggs » Sun May 10, 2009 10:55 am

SVTF wrote:But lets say we have someone pre register for a tourney because they are going to be late for the start.
And the rule is that if they do not show up to play by 1.5 hours in that they will be removed from the table.
Will the unregister feature work ? Game is running and under the tourney tab you double click the tourney.
Could you then select the person that has not showed up and unregister him?
Does this also take his chips out of the price pool?


You would have to refund their buy-in and reduce the prize pool. That's why it's problematic with a non-freeroll tournament. It's a bait and switch on everyone else. None of the major online sites do this. Perhaps a better alternative would be to add a function that unregisters players if they haven't logged back in within a certain time of the tourney start and another option to allows for late registration. However, late registration is usually only allowed for very large tournaments (hundreds or thousands of players).
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Postby Kent Briggs » Sun May 10, 2009 11:10 am

By the way, another option you can do now is leave the "Unregister at logout" set to "Yes" to keep people out who had no real intention of coming back but still manually add people you know are coming back using the TournamentsRegister API command. I'll consider putting that in the GUI itself.
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Postby Demented » Mon May 11, 2009 10:49 am

Kent Briggs wrote:
Demented wrote:Well, we've been having a problem with people exploiting the time-out to stay in until the final 3. Doesn't happen all the time, but it has been happening a lot lately. Mostly with people playing the first few hands aggressively and getting a decent amount of chips then just sitting out until it's time for them to play in the final 3.


A player has every right to just fold every hand. It makes no difference if they manually click the Fold button every turn or check the Away box and have it done for them automatically.

True, but when they're purposly sitting out to get to the final three and go off to play in other ring games, it really is an issue, at least the way I see it.

If the change is announced and is made a part of the site rules, there wouldn't be that need to refund people's chips though. It would be known that if you sit-out of a tournament for a long period of time, you'll be booted from it. If player just wants to fold almost every hand, they're welcome to; I even do it. :lol:
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Postby Kent Briggs » Mon May 11, 2009 11:57 am

Demented wrote:True, but when they're purposly sitting out to get to the final three and go off to play in other ring games, it really is an issue, at least the way I see it.


Then you'd also have an issue with someone just sitting there clicking the fold button every turn to make the money because there is no difference between the two. By the way, if someone can fold every single hand and make it into the money, that is a sign of some really bad play by the other players.

A fairer option would be to to refund the player but leave the prize pool as-is, which essentially uses house chips to make up the difference.
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Postby cuervo5150 » Mon May 11, 2009 9:39 pm

In the paid tourneys someone sitting out is just part of the game. They paid to do what they want with the seat, folding every hand or sitting out every hand accomplishes the same thing. However, in a free-roll game, it would be kick-ass if we could set up some house rules per say, and automatically boot inactive players after a set number of levels or minutes have passed.

I would send you a nice bottle of tequila for this addition! :)

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