Review of freelancer / Scammer pmavmaker
Posted: Sun May 31, 2015 6:36 pm
Ok, so I read a huge list of features mentioned by pmavmaker and get in a full fledged Gold version setup contract with him.
- I send him 30% advance
- He sends me basic website design and PM gold license details. The advance I paid him was way above the value of both of these.(So far fair enough).
- I send him next 30%
- He disappears for around 2 weeks without informing - reason being - his brother died
- He gets back for 4 days after repeated emails n messages on skype - starts working
- Disappears again for around 1 week, again without informing - reason - his father was hospitalised
- Gets back works for 4 days - Comes up with new quotes and asking extra money claiming work being out of scope.
- Disappears third time for 5 days, again without informing - reason - He met with an accident and broke his head n was hospitalised
- Sent him a zillion messages with no reply. After 5 days he replied while I was away (I had changed the server password by then and revoked his access to my domains account)
- As, he did not get any reply from me as I was out for a movie, he started sending me threating messages that he would "DESTROY" the site, which he did
Quality of work he did - Spelling mistakes, Horrible designing, I don't have technical skills, but the developer I showed the code to recommended that I get it done again as his coding is of a fresher.
He blablaed after that seeking to complete the contract but shooed him away. Lost money.. lesson learnt. Just spreading the word so that none else lose their money n time over him.
He goes by the name of John bob on Skype
Below is the transcript of chat with him:
[23/04/15 7:03:24 am] Me: John,
[23/04/15 7:05:32 am] Me: Its been a week that i gave you the list and I do not see any progress or update in it
[23/04/15 7:05:34 am] Me: whats happening?
[23/04/15 7:05:57 am] Me: in the end you will just do patch work which won’t be acceptable to me
[23/04/15 7:06:11 am] Me: and we will keep arguing over it
[23/04/15 7:07:08 am] Me: I will wait for your message till today afternoon for you to update me with every item on the excel I provided u
[23/04/15 7:27:55 am] Me: The payment gateway ids are up
[23/04/15 7:28:21 am] Me: they are valid for 15 days only
[23/04/15 7:28:35 am] Me: I have sent them to u 3 days back
[23/04/15 7:29:05 am] Me: there could be unforeseen issues in setting them up…if u don’t start working on it immediatley
[23/04/15 7:29:24 am] Me: if the time runs out, it will be problem for me
[23/04/15 7:32:25 am] Me: and John, what kind of monthly support do I expect from you when you do not reply to my messages for 2 days in a row
[23/04/15 10:11:52 am] Me: John, sms functionality is not working now
[23/04/15 10:12:07 am] Me: I am facing severe pressure from my people here
[23/04/15 10:12:22 am] Me: I will have to take some action on this today
[25/04/15 5:06:03 pm] john bob: hi
[25/04/15 5:06:05 pm] john bob: there ?
[25/04/15 5:06:56 pm] john bob: ?
[25/04/15 5:07:27 pm] john bob: if there plz answer
[25/04/15 5:10:11 pm] john bob: ok , bro , I had an accident 3 nights ago with a car , and my leg broke and my head damaged some little , Im in hospital until tonight and tmorrow I will release , now im with my dad phone , tomorrow I will msg u there
[25/04/15 5:10:59 pm] john bob: sorry about this delay , hospital don't permit me to have phone in this place
[25/04/15 5:11:04 pm] john bob: see u
[25/04/15 5:11:06 pm] john bob: for now
[26/04/15 9:16:49 pm] john bob: Hi
[26/04/15 9:17:06 pm] john bob: There?
[26/04/15 9:30:57 pm] john bob: Not?
[26/04/15 9:34:15 pm] john bob: I have not access to server
[26/04/15 9:34:24 pm] john bob: Do u changed pass?
[26/04/15 9:35:54 pm] john bob: Ok, nop, i recovered that
[26/04/15 9:35:57 pm] john bob: Its ok now
[26/04/15 9:53:08 pm] john bob: Its not work
[26/04/15 9:53:20 pm] john bob: There or no?
[26/04/15 9:58:30 pm] john bob: R u revenging?
[26/04/15 9:59:04 pm] john bob:
[26/04/15 10:03:22 pm] john bob: I said i was in hospital and now this?
[26/04/15 10:04:34 pm] john bob: Ok i wait 1h and then do somethings
[26/04/15 10:04:42 pm] john bob: If no answer
[26/04/15 10:04:47 pm] john bob: For now
[26/04/15 10:20:41 pm] john bob: I was ready more updates updates
[26/04/15 10:21:09 pm] john bob: so if u r revenging then ur work is too bad !
[26/04/15 10:21:17 pm] john bob: I have 1week time
[26/04/15 10:24:50 pm] john bob: ok , so I think u r really revenging
[26/04/15 10:25:23 pm] john bob: I wait for 40 min bro
[26/04/15 10:33:09 pm] john bob: i have down ur website now ! if don't send password and reback ro our contract i will DESTROY many other things
[26/04/15 10:33:19 pm] john bob: u have just 15min dear
[26/04/15 10:44:06 pm] john bob: 5min
[26/04/15 10:52:58 pm] john bob: ok ,
[26/04/15 10:53:10 pm] john bob: our contract closed now dear
[26/04/15 10:53:14 pm] john bob: bye
[26/04/15 11:24:24 pm] Me: Sure John….so u go absconding for a week and that ok….and I was out for a movie n u don’t get a reply…n u start blackmailing me
[26/04/15 11:24:30 pm] Me: do what u want
[26/04/15 11:25:07 pm] Me: I am ready to lose that money that I paid you and start fresh instead of going ahead with a blackmailer n cheat
[26/04/15 11:25:31 pm] Me: I’ll make sure I post this exact conversation of yours on mavens forum
[26/04/15 11:26:14 pm] john bob: u can do anything, i have our conversion about 15days
[26/04/15 11:26:20 pm] Me: sure
[26/04/15 11:26:31 pm] john bob: and i have 1 week yet , but u closed everythings
[26/04/15 11:26:50 pm] Me: HOW THE FUCK DO YOU THREATEN ME THAT YOU WILL DESTROY
[26/04/15 11:26:59 pm] Me: N HOW DARE YOU PULL THE SITE DOWN
[26/04/15 11:27:18 pm] Me: r u a road side cheat to act so cheap?
[26/04/15 11:27:34 pm] john bob: no , that's u !
[26/04/15 11:27:37 pm] john bob: not me !
[26/04/15 11:27:44 pm] Me: fine, so be it
[26/04/15 11:28:00 pm] john bob: u changed everythings and don't ask me from last day
[26/04/15 11:28:40 pm] Me: I fucking have been messaging you for over a week n u dint reply
[26/04/15 11:28:52 pm] john bob: so what u want from me ? u my srouce, so i cant close website !
[26/04/15 11:28:56 pm] john bob: i can **
[26/04/15 11:29:30 pm] john bob: and don't answer from last day
[26/04/15 11:29:38 pm] Me: were u fucking available for conversation
[26/04/15 11:29:41 pm] john bob: so give me right to think about that !
[26/04/15 11:29:50 pm] Me: suit yourself
[26/04/15 11:29:55 pm] john bob: i told u where i was
[26/04/15 11:31:37 pm] Me: Sure John, I have to believe if you say that ur brother died, I have to believe if u say ur dad is hospitalised, I have to believe that you meet with an accident….n one hour I don’t reply and u fucking start threatening me
[26/04/15 11:33:02 pm] john bob: i send many iages about them
[26/04/15 11:33:08 pm] john bob: and i had many proofs
[26/04/15 11:33:09 pm] john bob: but
[26/04/15 11:33:33 pm] john bob: i sent some msgs yesterday to u
[26/04/15 11:33:39 pm] Me: John, good or bad work keeps happening, n with my 2k $, you won’t build a castle….but reputation takes a long way….goahead n be what you are….
[26/04/15 11:33:44 pm] john bob: so , u was busy from yesterday until now ?
[26/04/15 11:36:32 pm] Me: John, its weekend and I was awayy, I did see ur msg later n u said u ll message tomorrow…..u did not ask for any reply on ur message…n today when u messaged me, I was not around…..n u go about pulling the website down…do what u want dude….I will get it done on a new server …or will go with some other solution instead of mavens….the basic thing is trust..I cannot work with someone who can get evil with intentions.
[26/04/15 11:37:28 pm] john bob: yes , all things is about trust ,
[26/04/15 11:37:38 pm] Me: I lose my money, you lose your reputation,,,we are even
[26/04/15 11:37:51 pm] john bob: but , i saw an email about godaddy and u removed my access to domain
[26/04/15 11:38:29 pm] john bob: and some pages gone from my source is ur website that was important things and when i crawler the site don't saw them
[26/04/15 11:39:02 pm] Me: when u don’t reply for a week….u expect me to leave the access granted?
[26/04/15 11:39:02 pm] john bob: and i sent msg , u don't any replay even one "OK" , and tonight sent many msgs
[26/04/15 11:39:07 pm] john bob: but not any replay again
[26/04/15 11:39:13 pm] john bob: so what u think about trust ?!
[26/04/15 11:39:23 pm] Me: keep it up John
[26/04/15 11:39:40 pm] Me: keep justifying and do what ever u feel like destroying
- I send him 30% advance
- He sends me basic website design and PM gold license details. The advance I paid him was way above the value of both of these.(So far fair enough).
- I send him next 30%
- He disappears for around 2 weeks without informing - reason being - his brother died
- He gets back for 4 days after repeated emails n messages on skype - starts working
- Disappears again for around 1 week, again without informing - reason - his father was hospitalised
- Gets back works for 4 days - Comes up with new quotes and asking extra money claiming work being out of scope.
- Disappears third time for 5 days, again without informing - reason - He met with an accident and broke his head n was hospitalised
- Sent him a zillion messages with no reply. After 5 days he replied while I was away (I had changed the server password by then and revoked his access to my domains account)
- As, he did not get any reply from me as I was out for a movie, he started sending me threating messages that he would "DESTROY" the site, which he did
Quality of work he did - Spelling mistakes, Horrible designing, I don't have technical skills, but the developer I showed the code to recommended that I get it done again as his coding is of a fresher.
He blablaed after that seeking to complete the contract but shooed him away. Lost money.. lesson learnt. Just spreading the word so that none else lose their money n time over him.
He goes by the name of John bob on Skype
Below is the transcript of chat with him:
[23/04/15 7:03:24 am] Me: John,
[23/04/15 7:05:32 am] Me: Its been a week that i gave you the list and I do not see any progress or update in it
[23/04/15 7:05:34 am] Me: whats happening?
[23/04/15 7:05:57 am] Me: in the end you will just do patch work which won’t be acceptable to me
[23/04/15 7:06:11 am] Me: and we will keep arguing over it
[23/04/15 7:07:08 am] Me: I will wait for your message till today afternoon for you to update me with every item on the excel I provided u
[23/04/15 7:27:55 am] Me: The payment gateway ids are up
[23/04/15 7:28:21 am] Me: they are valid for 15 days only
[23/04/15 7:28:35 am] Me: I have sent them to u 3 days back
[23/04/15 7:29:05 am] Me: there could be unforeseen issues in setting them up…if u don’t start working on it immediatley
[23/04/15 7:29:24 am] Me: if the time runs out, it will be problem for me
[23/04/15 7:32:25 am] Me: and John, what kind of monthly support do I expect from you when you do not reply to my messages for 2 days in a row
[23/04/15 10:11:52 am] Me: John, sms functionality is not working now
[23/04/15 10:12:07 am] Me: I am facing severe pressure from my people here
[23/04/15 10:12:22 am] Me: I will have to take some action on this today
[25/04/15 5:06:03 pm] john bob: hi
[25/04/15 5:06:05 pm] john bob: there ?
[25/04/15 5:06:56 pm] john bob: ?
[25/04/15 5:07:27 pm] john bob: if there plz answer
[25/04/15 5:10:11 pm] john bob: ok , bro , I had an accident 3 nights ago with a car , and my leg broke and my head damaged some little , Im in hospital until tonight and tmorrow I will release , now im with my dad phone , tomorrow I will msg u there
[25/04/15 5:10:59 pm] john bob: sorry about this delay , hospital don't permit me to have phone in this place
[25/04/15 5:11:04 pm] john bob: see u
[25/04/15 5:11:06 pm] john bob: for now
[26/04/15 9:16:49 pm] john bob: Hi
[26/04/15 9:17:06 pm] john bob: There?
[26/04/15 9:30:57 pm] john bob: Not?
[26/04/15 9:34:15 pm] john bob: I have not access to server
[26/04/15 9:34:24 pm] john bob: Do u changed pass?
[26/04/15 9:35:54 pm] john bob: Ok, nop, i recovered that
[26/04/15 9:35:57 pm] john bob: Its ok now
[26/04/15 9:53:08 pm] john bob: Its not work
[26/04/15 9:53:20 pm] john bob: There or no?
[26/04/15 9:58:30 pm] john bob: R u revenging?
[26/04/15 9:59:04 pm] john bob:
[26/04/15 10:03:22 pm] john bob: I said i was in hospital and now this?
[26/04/15 10:04:34 pm] john bob: Ok i wait 1h and then do somethings
[26/04/15 10:04:42 pm] john bob: If no answer
[26/04/15 10:04:47 pm] john bob: For now
[26/04/15 10:20:41 pm] john bob: I was ready more updates updates
[26/04/15 10:21:09 pm] john bob: so if u r revenging then ur work is too bad !
[26/04/15 10:21:17 pm] john bob: I have 1week time
[26/04/15 10:24:50 pm] john bob: ok , so I think u r really revenging
[26/04/15 10:25:23 pm] john bob: I wait for 40 min bro
[26/04/15 10:33:09 pm] john bob: i have down ur website now ! if don't send password and reback ro our contract i will DESTROY many other things
[26/04/15 10:33:19 pm] john bob: u have just 15min dear
[26/04/15 10:44:06 pm] john bob: 5min
[26/04/15 10:52:58 pm] john bob: ok ,
[26/04/15 10:53:10 pm] john bob: our contract closed now dear
[26/04/15 10:53:14 pm] john bob: bye
[26/04/15 11:24:24 pm] Me: Sure John….so u go absconding for a week and that ok….and I was out for a movie n u don’t get a reply…n u start blackmailing me
[26/04/15 11:24:30 pm] Me: do what u want
[26/04/15 11:25:07 pm] Me: I am ready to lose that money that I paid you and start fresh instead of going ahead with a blackmailer n cheat
[26/04/15 11:25:31 pm] Me: I’ll make sure I post this exact conversation of yours on mavens forum
[26/04/15 11:26:14 pm] john bob: u can do anything, i have our conversion about 15days
[26/04/15 11:26:20 pm] Me: sure
[26/04/15 11:26:31 pm] john bob: and i have 1 week yet , but u closed everythings
[26/04/15 11:26:50 pm] Me: HOW THE FUCK DO YOU THREATEN ME THAT YOU WILL DESTROY
[26/04/15 11:26:59 pm] Me: N HOW DARE YOU PULL THE SITE DOWN
[26/04/15 11:27:18 pm] Me: r u a road side cheat to act so cheap?
[26/04/15 11:27:34 pm] john bob: no , that's u !
[26/04/15 11:27:37 pm] john bob: not me !
[26/04/15 11:27:44 pm] Me: fine, so be it
[26/04/15 11:28:00 pm] john bob: u changed everythings and don't ask me from last day
[26/04/15 11:28:40 pm] Me: I fucking have been messaging you for over a week n u dint reply
[26/04/15 11:28:52 pm] john bob: so what u want from me ? u my srouce, so i cant close website !
[26/04/15 11:28:56 pm] john bob: i can **
[26/04/15 11:29:30 pm] john bob: and don't answer from last day
[26/04/15 11:29:38 pm] Me: were u fucking available for conversation
[26/04/15 11:29:41 pm] john bob: so give me right to think about that !
[26/04/15 11:29:50 pm] Me: suit yourself
[26/04/15 11:29:55 pm] john bob: i told u where i was
[26/04/15 11:31:37 pm] Me: Sure John, I have to believe if you say that ur brother died, I have to believe if u say ur dad is hospitalised, I have to believe that you meet with an accident….n one hour I don’t reply and u fucking start threatening me
[26/04/15 11:33:02 pm] john bob: i send many iages about them
[26/04/15 11:33:08 pm] john bob: and i had many proofs
[26/04/15 11:33:09 pm] john bob: but
[26/04/15 11:33:33 pm] john bob: i sent some msgs yesterday to u
[26/04/15 11:33:39 pm] Me: John, good or bad work keeps happening, n with my 2k $, you won’t build a castle….but reputation takes a long way….goahead n be what you are….
[26/04/15 11:33:44 pm] john bob: so , u was busy from yesterday until now ?
[26/04/15 11:36:32 pm] Me: John, its weekend and I was awayy, I did see ur msg later n u said u ll message tomorrow…..u did not ask for any reply on ur message…n today when u messaged me, I was not around…..n u go about pulling the website down…do what u want dude….I will get it done on a new server …or will go with some other solution instead of mavens….the basic thing is trust..I cannot work with someone who can get evil with intentions.
[26/04/15 11:37:28 pm] john bob: yes , all things is about trust ,
[26/04/15 11:37:38 pm] Me: I lose my money, you lose your reputation,,,we are even
[26/04/15 11:37:51 pm] john bob: but , i saw an email about godaddy and u removed my access to domain
[26/04/15 11:38:29 pm] john bob: and some pages gone from my source is ur website that was important things and when i crawler the site don't saw them
[26/04/15 11:39:02 pm] Me: when u don’t reply for a week….u expect me to leave the access granted?
[26/04/15 11:39:02 pm] john bob: and i sent msg , u don't any replay even one "OK" , and tonight sent many msgs
[26/04/15 11:39:07 pm] john bob: but not any replay again
[26/04/15 11:39:13 pm] john bob: so what u think about trust ?!
[26/04/15 11:39:23 pm] Me: keep it up John
[26/04/15 11:39:40 pm] Me: keep justifying and do what ever u feel like destroying