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Understanding the log

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:38 pm
by nexusone
Hi
2 hands from games we've played today : Something strange in the second hand


Poker Mavens Hand #3091-5 - 2008-07-01 13:34:08
Game: No Limit Hold'em (400 - 2500) - Blinds 10/20
Site: Tony G. Casino
Table: Port Pin Table
Seat 2: el_loco (1480)
Seat 4: HeRsK (1410)
Seat 5: TOM (1010)
Seat 6: KADELHAJ (1500) - sitting out
el_loco has the dealer button
HeRsK posts small blind 10
TOM posts big blind 20
** Hole Cards **
el_loco folds
HeRsK has timed out
HeRsK folds
TOM wins Pot (20)

Poker Mavens Hand #3092-6 - 2008-07-01 13:35:00
Game: No Limit Hold'em (400 - 2500) - Blinds 10/20
Site: Tony G. Casino
Table: Port Pin Table
Seat 1: nain_connu (1500)
Seat 2: el_loco (1480)
Seat 4: HeRsK (1400) - sitting out
Seat 5: TOM (1020)
Seat 6: KADELHAJ (1500)
Seat 7: Nex (1000) - sitting out
TOM has the dealer button
el_loco posts small blind 10 <--------- Both players post small blind (button rule I guess)
TOM posts small blind 10 <--------- Both players post small blind (button rule I guess)
** Hole Cards **
el_loco calls 20 <---------------------------------- Why does he call 20 and not 10 ?
TOM calls 10
** Flop ** [Ks As Qd]
el_loco bets 40
TOM calls 40
** Turn ** [8h]
el_loco checks
TOM checks
** River ** [Js]
el_loco checks
TOM checks
** Pot Show Down ** [Ks As Qd 8h Js]
el_loco [Qc 3s] has a Pair of Queens +AKJ
TOM [6d Jd] has a Pair of Jacks +AKQ
el_loco wins Pot (130) with a Pair

Re: Undestanding the log

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:03 pm
by Kent Briggs
nexusone wrote: el_loco posts small blind 10 <--------- Both players post small blind (button rule I guess)
TOM posts small blind 10 <--------- Both players post small blind (button rule I guess)
** Hole Cards **
el_loco calls 20 <---------------------------------- Why does he call 20 and not 10 ?
Yeah, definitely a bug. It should have been a heads-up hand with TOM on the button, posting the SB and el-loco with the BB. I suspect the system got confused with nain_connu joining the table but was ineligible to play that hand starting in the SB position. I'll fix this in the next update. Thanks.

Re: Understanding the log

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:58 pm
by selene
I am attaching some text with some other strange blind action. The 1st and 2nd hands of the ones shown here are where it is really odd, since someone is big blind twice. To my knowledge, the "alpha lead" player left/rejoined during the first hand.

Poker Mavens Hand #55596-69 - 2008-07-01 23:31:24
Game: No Limit Hold'em (250 - 2000) - Blinds 10/20
Site: Eve Online Hold'Em
Table: Ring Game #1 (High)
Seat 1: alpha_lead (500) - sitting out
Seat 2: bwill220 (950)
Seat 3: Cosmoray (2250)
Seat 4: Sperion (1980)
Seat 5: piter (700) - sitting out
Seat 6: dr34dd (980)
Seat 7: Kresh_Vladir (4370)
Seat 8: AngDamelon (761)
Kresh_Vladir has the dealer button
AngDamelon posts small blind 10
bwill220 posts big blind 20
** Hole Cards **
Cosmoray calls 20
Sperion folds
dr34dd folds
Kresh_Vladir calls 20
AngDamelon folds
bwill220 checks
** Flop ** [5s Th 4h]
bwill220 checks
Cosmoray bets 60
Kresh_Vladir calls 60
bwill220 folds
** Turn ** [Ks]
Cosmoray checks
Kresh_Vladir bets 90
Cosmoray calls 90
** River ** [4d]
Cosmoray checks
Kresh_Vladir checks
** Pot Show Down ** [5s Th 4h Ks 4d]
Cosmoray [Tc Qh] has Two Pair, Tens and Fours +K
Kresh_Vladir [Js Kh] has Two Pair, Kings and Fours +J
Kresh_Vladir wins Pot (370) with Two Pair

Poker Mavens Hand #55599-70 - 2008-07-01 23:32:42
Game: No Limit Hold'em (250 - 2000) - Blinds 10/20
Site: Eve Online Hold'Em
Table: Ring Game #1 (High)
Seat 1: alpha_lead (500)
Seat 2: bwill220 (930)
Seat 3: Cosmoray (2080)
Seat 4: Sperion (1980)
Seat 5: piter (700)
Seat 6: dr34dd (980)
Seat 7: Kresh_Vladir (4570)
Seat 8: AngDamelon (751)
AngDamelon has the dealer button
alpha_lead posts small & big blind 30
bwill220 posts big blind 20
piter posts small blind 10
** Hole Cards **
Cosmoray folds
Sperion folds
bwill220: "wtf"
piter raises to 40
dr34dd folds
Kresh_Vladir folds
AngDamelon folds
Kresh_Vladir: "wtf what?"
alpha_lead has timed out
alpha_lead folds
bwill220 calls 20
** Flop ** [4c Kd 3h]
bwill220 checks
piter checks
** Turn ** [7d]
bwill220: "2.0 failed"
bwill220 checks
piter checks
** River ** [8h]
bwill220 checks
piter bets 20
bwill220 calls 20
** Pot Show Down ** [4c Kd 3h 7d 8h]
bwill220 [4s Td] has a Pair of Fours +KT8
piter [Jd Qd] has High Card King +QJ87
bwill220 wins Pot (160) with a Pair

Poker Mavens Hand #55603-71 - 2008-07-01 23:34:33
Game: No Limit Hold'em (250 - 2000) - Blinds 10/20
Site: Eve Online Hold'Em
Table: Ring Game #1 (High)
Seat 1: alpha_lead (470)
Seat 2: bwill220 (1030)
Seat 3: Cosmoray (2080)
Seat 4: Sperion (1980)
Seat 5: piter (630)
Seat 6: dr34dd (980)
Seat 7: Kresh_Vladir (4570)
Seat 8: AngDamelon (751)
alpha_lead has the dealer button
bwill220 posts small blind 10
Cosmoray posts big blind 20
** Hole Cards **
Sperion folds
piter folds
dr34dd folds
Kresh_Vladir folds
AngDamelon calls 20
alpha_lead calls 20
bwill220 calls 10
Cosmoray checks
** Flop ** [Jc Qs Qh]
bwill220 checks
Cosmoray checks
AngDamelon checks
alpha_lead checks
** Turn ** [6s]
bwill220 checks
Cosmoray checks
AngDamelon checks
alpha_lead checks
** River ** [4h]
bwill220 bets 20
Cosmoray folds
AngDamelon raises to 80
alpha_lead has timed out
alpha_lead folds
bwill220 folds
AngDamelon wins Pot (120)

Re: Understanding the log

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:14 pm
by Kent Briggs
selene wrote: alpha_lead posts small & big blind 30
bwill220 posts big blind 20
piter posts small blind 10
In a ring game, if a player is sitting out when one or both of the blinds would have hit them, they have to post them when they come back in. Otherwise people would just sit out each time the blinds came around. If they missed the small blind, it goes directly to the pot like an ante. It's sometimes referred to as "the dead". However if they come back on the big blind, they just post the regular BB on that turn and the SB on the next one. So I'm guessing that's what happened to alpha_lead. I'd have to see the earlier hands to see how long he was sitting out.