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SB/BB move to the wrong players

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:29 pm
by selene
Related to the one where you can reraise yourself most likely, if the SB or BB lose all of their chips, the Sb/BB get assigned to the wrong person the next hand. My guess is since the list of players change they don't point to the right place.

Re: SB/BB move to the wrong players

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:54 pm
by Kent Briggs
selene wrote:Related to the one where you can reraise yourself most likely, if the SB or BB lose all of their chips, the Sb/BB get assigned to the wrong person the next hand. My guess is since the list of players change they don't point to the right place.


Send me the hand history on that please.

Re: SB/BB move to the wrong players

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:50 pm
by selene
I believe it happens here on hands 5 and 6.

Re: SB/BB move to the wrong players

PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:23 pm
by Kent Briggs
selene wrote:I believe it happens here on hands 5 and 6.


It looks correct to me. There are two methods for button movement. Poker Mavens uses the "button always move" method in accordance with Robert's Rules of Poker, section 4, rule 2a:

http://www.briggsoft.com/docs/pmavens/Rules_Roberts.htm#section4

If the SB busts, then the BB gets to skip a SB. If you use the dead button method then someone gets the button twice in a row. Either way, someone will get a slight advantage. I prefer the first method. I believe PokerStars and Full Tilt use this also.

Here's a truncated view of those hands:

Poker Mavens Hand #10962-5 - 2008-06-21 00:12:17
Site: Eve Online Hold'Em
Table: LSH #4 - Tournament - Table 1
Seat 1: Broch (5050)
Seat 3: Brownian (4550)
Seat 4: Sarg_Peng (5650)
Seat 5: Steelrattty (10400)
Seat 6: Johnson (4450)
Seat 7: Seth_A (300)
Seat 8: Laice (4700)
Seat 9: K0Swaves (4900)
Seat 10: McLove (5000)
Johnson has the dealer button
Seth_A posts small blind 50
Laice posts big blind 100
<snip>
Seth_A finishes tournament in 9th place

Poker Mavens Hand #10965-6 - 2008-06-21 00:14:43
Site: Eve Online Hold'Em
Table: LSH #4 - Tournament - Table 1
Seat 1: Broch (8400)
Seat 3: Brownian (4250)
Seat 4: Sarg_Peng (5350)
Seat 5: Steelrattty (8350)
Seat 6: Johnson (4450)
Seat 8: Laice (4400)
Seat 9: K0Swaves (4800)
Seat 10: McLove (5000)
Laice has the dealer button
K0Swaves posts small blind 50
McLove posts big blind 100

Re: SB/BB move to the wrong players

PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:12 pm
by selene
Ahh sweet, this was just mentioned by a player, maybe he doesn't know. I will look out for truly odd behavior. Otherwise let's consider this ignorance and not a bug for now.